Elon Musk Takes Multiple Questions From Voters At Campaign Event In Pennsylvania (Full 60 Minutes Q&A Session)
Elon Musk Takes Multiple Questions From Voters At Campaign Event In Pennsylvania (Full 60 Minutes Q&A Session) Timestamp
00:00:00 Elon Musk Takes Questions From Voters At Campaign Event In Pennsylvania
00:01:09 Elon Musk think teaching kids critical thinking is very important.
00:02:07 Elon Musk believe in the sort of physics approach to thinking.
00:02:52 X(former twitter) platform really has the sum of the voice of the people.
00:04:00 Five people that control all the news in US.
00:04:16 The cumulative voice of the people should decide what is news worthy，not a small number of publications and media companies.
00:07:52 What Elon Musk sees being done with a lot of the major AI companies is not truth-seeking. 00:08:56 Elon Musk said we can't have an AI built on a throne of lies.
00:10:15 NGOs in US actually funded by the government.
00:11:17 Elon Musk has been waiting two years for a permit for a simple tunnel under a river. Because it's a federal river. 00:13:11 Elon Musk’s prediction on eduction integrated with Ai.
00:15:47 What's the best advice for your children? Be a good man.
00:16:27 Elon Musk think that the dangers of nuclear power are greatly overstated.
00:17:43 Elon Musk gave some discussions on Space Force and spy satellite.
00:19:07 The challenge of falling global birth rates and American birth rates.
00:20:57 We definitely want to get rid of this ridiculous notion that there are too many humans on Earth.
00:22:29 Elon Musk gave answers why he so involved in politics this time?
00:27:05 Elon Musk recommend posting any evidence that you have for voting fraud or irregularities or causes of concern, just post it on the X platform.
00:27:41 Elon Musk think we should not have computers do voting tabulation at all.
00:28:03 We should have paper ballots only. It should be in-person voting with ID and a story.
00:28:21 Some people claim that you're hurting Tesla's brand and sales by supporting Trump.
00:29:13 Elon Musk sure hope we don't have to make a X phone, the idea of making a phone makes me want to die. 00:32:26 what I see on the left is a lot of shallow empathy, sort of empathy that's skin deep, essentially, very thin empathy.
00:32:36 Elon Musk wanna fix issues on homeless and violent drug zombies on street
00:33:32 How to face war and peace in this world?
00:40:54 How can we better use our funding federally to make sure our students in public school receive a proper education that prepares them for the workforce without the misallocation of taxpayer federal funding that the students seem to not be benefiting from anyway?
00:41:28 we need to have an incentive for excellence where there's reward for excellence and there's punishment for failure.
00:44:48 What advice do you have for young men today?
00:45:16 Elon Musk points out the only thing that causes inflation is government overspending because the checks never bounce.
00:52:46 Elon Musk strongly believe with respect to any kind of gender surgeries, there should not be any permanent changes to children.
00:53:26 Allowing a child to do something crazy during their teenage years that affects them for the rest of their lives is not doing good for that child at all.
00:53:52 What Elon Musk think education and college in particular is the best.
00:59:14 What's the Elon Musk you want to build? How can a young American prepare themselves and inspire others for a rapidly evolving political and social world?
01:00:08 Why hasn't Tesla bought Rivian?
Full Speech and Q&A Session:
[Cheering] Hello everyone! [Cheering] Welcome! Welcome to the Team America rally! [Cheering] So... And, uh... I love you too. Um... [Chuckles] Alright, so, uh, let's see. Um, what should I say? SpaceX does rock! [Chuckles] Indeed. Um, actually I'm pretty excited about the possibility of SpaceX, you know, and just generally becoming a space-faring civilization,
going beyond where we went in the past with the... where we went to the moon. It's crazy that we went to the moon, over 50 years ago was the last time anyone went to the moon. And a lot of people think we didn't go to the moon, but we did. We did. [Chuckles] The Soviets would have called us out on that one if we hadn't gone to the moon. They would have called bullshit on that one. A hundred percent. But... Yeah, yeah, we need to go back to...
We should not just go back to the moon, we should have a moon base. You know? Like, moon base alpha, you know, like an actual base with like a science station. That would be sick. You know, and like, I think we want to become a multi-planet species and be out there among the stars. We want to make Starfleet real. You know? So that like, I mean like, you should be able to go to Mars if you want to go to... I mean, go to Mars. It'd be like, amazing, you know?
Well, it'll take six months. [Chuckles] So, Mars is far. But we can do it. We can create a base on Mars. And ultimately build a city on Mars and make life multi-planetary. I think that would be super cool. Yeah, I mean... [Applause] I mean, you know, life can't just be about like, you know, solving one miserable problem after another. There have to be things that inspire you, that excite you about the future, that you look forward to, you're like, "Wow, that's going to be cool."
And I think being a space-faring civilization and, you know, having a city on Mars and going out there exploring the moons of Jupiter, ultimately getting to other star systems, would be incredibly exciting. And suddenly you're like, "Wow!" You could really look forward to that. That'd be like, I don't know, incredible. So, you know, go out there and find like, maybe alien civilizations. You know, like in Star Trek, you know, go where you've never gone before. So, yeah, let's make Starfleet real. Yeah. [Applause] Meanwhile, back here on Earth... [Laughter] We need to... I think we definitely need to get President Trump re-elected. [Laughter] [Applause] So, that is, I think, incredibly important.
And, I mean, I think America is great, but we want to be greater. And we want to do amazing things. And we don't want, like, the Apollo program to be our high-water mark. We want to do great things in America. And I think we also want to preserve what has made America great. You know, so things like freedom of speech, you know, like... [Applause] You know, the right to bear arms, these things in the Constitution that are actually, you know, important. You have to say, why did they add these amendments to the Constitution? It was because in the places that people came from,
if you said what you wanted to say, you'd be put in prison or you'd be killed. And they took everyone's guns away so that, you know, they couldn't rebel against oppressive government. That's the whole idea behind taking the guns away. So, I'm a big believer in the Constitution. Big believer in, you know, what makes America great. And then we also need, like, some obvious things. Like, we need actual secure borders. [Applause] It's like, you know, you're not a country if you don't have, like, a border. Like, what does it even mean to be a country at that point, you know?
And I went to the border just to see what my cell phone was like. And it was like, it's like World War Z at the border. You know, like, this is crazy, man. So, obviously, I'm in favor of immigrants that-- So, you know, the insane government spending is driving the country into bankruptcy. And, you know, just like a person, if you spend too much, you eventually go bankrupt. The federal debt's growing by a trillion dollars every three months. I mean, it's--our defense budget is pretty gigantic. It's a trillion dollars. But the interest that we owe on the debt is now higher than the defense budget.
Over a trillion dollars and growing. This is not sustainable. So we have to do something about that or the country's going to go bankrupt. So that's an essential thing, too. Yeah, so that's why we need the Department of Government Efficiency. [cheers and applause] D-O-G-E. That's on a brass plaque on a desk. It's going to be amazing. So, you know, it's--yeah, exactly, as people were saying, it's just like it's common sense stuff.
And, you know, America really just needs--it needs to remain the land of opportunity, the land where your success is a function of how hard you work and your talent. Like, if you're talented and hardworking, that should be the only thing that determines whether you are successful. That's it. You know? And America's also supposed to be the land of freedom. That means personal freedom. Like, the government should not be imposing all these rules on people. And, you know, it's like--you know, yeah.
So government overreach is not cool. Freedom, freedom, yeah, exactly, Twitter files. I mean, it was just nutty. You know, people don't realize just how much government involvement there is in the media and, like, how much the government influences the media. I mean, it's crazy how, you know, you'll see--like, in fact, I think, like, whoever's manipulating the media should mix it up a bit because they're really not doing a great job. Like, you know, when they--a week before the debate between Biden and Trump, and, like, everyone on the media was saying Biden was sharp as a tack. Sharp as a tack, sharp as a tack, sharp as a tack, sharp as a tack.
Like, you should mix it up a little. Get a thesaurus. Okay? The NBC media puppets were just all saying exactly the same thing. So, you know, it's just kind of strange. Like, do they all just get the same memo at the same time? I don't know. My comment is--I want to see the group text, okay? Like, is there, like, an email copy list or what? You know, everyone say the same thing at the same time.
Yeah, just total puppets. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, totally. So, well, let's see. Like, you know, what I think--what I find is really engaging is when people are able to ask questions or make comments. And so if anybody wants to--you know, try to keep the comments, like, reasonably short. Any monologue should be ideally kept to, you know, less than a minute. So just far away, and I'll try to answer questions and, you know, respond to
comments. Well, yeah, sure. So, hi. My question is what makes you so interested in politics now? Why is this so important? Yeah, that's a great question. Okay, don't bring the mic that close. Whoa. Yeah, the question is why politics now versus in the past I really have not been meaningfully involved in politics.
So the reason is that I think we're at a crossroads. This time I think we're at a crossroads, a fork in the road of destiny. I mean, what I see happening under the sort of Biden-Kamala administration is a level of sort of government overreach and manipulation that is extremely troubling. And I also see really a deliberate attempt to import as many people as possible into swing states like Pennsylvania in order to ensure that there is a permanent one state--that America becomes a permanent one-party state. I mean, the numbers are truly staggering, and the sort of fake legacy media doesn't report on them. The only reason anyone knows about it is if you're on the X platform. But, like, it's crazy. [Applause]
But, I mean, you're seeing, like, basically increases--this is from the government website, by the way, which is run by Democrats. So, like, you're seeing, like, in some cases, like, 700 percent increases in the past three and a half years in illegals in swing states. What a coincidence. And when you're talking about elections that are won or lost by 10,000 or 20,000 votes, and then you bring in 200,000 people, and then you put them on the fast track to citizenship, this is without considering any cheating. This is legalized. If that happens over the next four years, there will be no swing states.
They're importing voters. That is my--I think that's obvious to anyone who looks. And we will have a situation like we have in California, where it's a one-party state. California is a super majority Dem state, and so it's one-party rule. And if you have one-party rule, that's not a democracy. So I think either action is taken now-- [Applause] If there's another four years for--and it's really, like, pointless to even sort of talk about--Cumala's just a puppet of a larger machine. If the machine--I'll just call it the machine--is able to run for another four years,
there will not be any meaningful elections in the future, just like there are in California. And the whole--all of America will be Californicated. Not in a good way. Yeah. Californicated. Ouch. So we don't want--that would be a bad situation. In fact, it will actually be worse than California. The reason it will be worse than California is the one thing that holds California back from being even worse than it is, is that people can move out of California and still be in America. Now, what happens when there's no place to move? It'll be way worse than California.
That's why I think--yeah, exactly. Well, and speaking of Mars, like, what we're seeing, you know, with SpaceX and Tesla and whatnot is that the sort of regulatory oppression year after year is worse and worse. And there's more regulatory agencies created every year, more rules and regulations every year, until eventually everything is illegal. You know, we had our rockets sitting on the pad for two months, ready to fly. How is it possible that SpaceX could build a gigantic rocket faster than the government could move paper from one desk to another? [Applause] So if that trend continues, which it will do unless there's a conscious effort to have deregulation and have sensible regulation, then Mars will be impossible.
We will be forever confined to Earth. So, you know, I definitely think that's a major showstopper, is being so heavily regulated that we are confined to Earth forever. And that would be a sad eulogy. If future aliens see us, they'll come back and say, "They almost made it. Too bad they regulated themselves." [Laughter] "They had the rocket and everything." [Laughter] So I guess, you know, the short answer is I think this is incredibly important. That ironically, you know, there's a lot of people on the Dem side that call Trump a threat to democracy.
I think, in fact, they are the threat to democracy. [Applause] Thank you. [Applause] Hi, Elon. I want to thank you for coming. I'm from deep blue northeast Philadelphia. And I just want to say thank you for all you've been doing, your contributions. And my question is, did you expect the impact that buying X would have on the world and the United States, free speech, even into the America PAC movement? Well, I mean, the reason -- I didn't realize it would have as big of an impact as it's come to have. But the reason I felt that it was important to acquire Twitter was because I could really -- I could feel the walls closing in.
You know, it was outrageous that they suspended the account of a sitting president. You know, I mean, that's insane. [Applause] And I think it was only a matter of time before they suspended my account, frankly. You know, and I'm sure, given the stuff I've said lately, they would have suspended me six weeks of Sunday. [Laughter] So, you know, I mean, really, Twitter and -- well, pretty much all the social media companies and Google and everyone are controlled by far left activists. That's the truth of it. You know, and so then how do you -- well, how do you know what's real when it's all
filtered through a far left San Francisco Berkeley lens? You know, they just manipulate the truth constantly. You can't even find the truth if you Google it, because Google's, you know, put it on page six. I mean, you know, I don't want to pick on Google too much. I mean, I have a lot of friends there. But, you know, it's very easy to tweak the results, because, you know, like the joke goes, like, what's the best place to hide a dead body? Well, second place at Google search results, because nobody ever goes there. So you don't really have to -- in order to, you know, hide information, you don't
have to delete it. You just move it to the second page, and it's just -- people don't go there. Yeah. That would be tough. That's a tricky one. But, hey, at least there's one place where you can find out what's actually going on and what's real, and that's the X platform. [ Applause ] And I want to say, like, you know, we're very rigorous on the X platform about being a fair playing field, a level playing field, being fair to all sides. There's not a single account on the left that's been suppressed.
Not one. No suspensions, nothing. I believe in being fair. You know, once in a while we do get, like, a request for something on the right that's, you know, would be slightly censorious, and we're like, nope, we're not going to do that. So, you know, we are rigorous about being fair. And unlike the prior regime, we are actually fair, and we want both sides to say their piece and to let there be a free debate and let the marketplace of ideas, you know, work and let the best ideas win.
And that's the right thing to do. [ Applause ] >> Hello, Elon. As an IT guy of 26 years, I think one of the smartest things you did was firing most of the Twitter staff. [ Applause ] >> Yeah. >> Everyone's talking about corruption in the election systems, in the DOJ and judicial system. I personally think a lot of that is because of blackmail data stored on government servers. I strongly feel that if we can't control the information that is stored by the three-letter agencies, we will never get control of the country. What are your ideas on things Trump can do to drain the swamp without being overwhelmed by their dirty trick?
>> Well, I mean, as the saying goes, sunlight is the best disinfectant. So I think really just bringing -- making as much information as possible public, available to the public so that you can see what's going on. There's, like, you know -- I mean, I do have a top-secret clearance, but I have to say, like, most of the stuff that I'm aware of are top-secret. Like, the reason to keep it top-secret is because it's so boring. Yeah. I mean, so -- but I think, like, the strong bias with respect to government information should be to make it available to the public. Like, it should be -- let's be as transparent as possible, like, fully transparent.
Unless it's, like, a massive risk to the country, like, it's, like, you know, we don't want to give, like, say, exact instructions on how to make a nuclear bomb or something like that, you know. But unless there's a genuine risk to the country, all information in the government should be public. Yeah. [Applause] Hi, over here. I'm sorry. [Laughter] I know I look like the same girl who just asked. It's hard to tell because I just hear the speakers, so -- Okay. I am Denise's twin who just asked a question.
I'm also from Deep Blue, far northeast Philadelphia in Parkwood. What I would like to ask you is, in applying the same efficiency that you did to removing 80% of the staff at Twitter to the Department of Governmental Efficiency, would you consider hiring Scott Pressler, who is an amazing movement -- Yeah, sure. Absolutely. -- for that efficiency? Yes. And I should say, you know, hopefully if this comes to pass and the Department of Governmental Efficiency is able to take action, we will reduce a lot of government headcount, but we're going to give, I think, like very long severances, like, I mean,
like two years or something like that. Look, just go do something else is what we're going to say. And you'll get paid for two years, you know. So you've got a lot of time to go and figure out something else to do. You know, it's like the point is not to be cruel or to, you know, have people not be able to pay their mortgage or anything. It's just we've got to move people -- we just have too many people in the government sector and they could be more productive elsewhere. [Applause] Hey, Yulon. It is a pleasure. Me and my best friend started a company when we were 21 years old.
We're going to be the next biggest beef jerky company in the U.S., I promise that. But what advice do you have for young entrepreneurs like us to conquer a challenge that seems almost impossible from the beginning? Well, I mean, generally I think, you know, just try to make it a good product or service. And it's not -- it's really that, you know. It's like you have to say, like, what is a useful thing that you could do? Like maximize your usefulness. What is the -- if there's -- like what is that product or service that you want to make? Beef jerky. The best beef jerky.
Okay, great. So you want to make the best beef jerky, just go ahead and do it. And then, you know, you have to sort of just explain to people why it's -- well, first of all, you need to make sure it is in fact the best beef jerky. And then you just need to then explain to people why it is. And so if you have both the reality and the perception of something being the best beef jerky or whatever the product may be, then I think you'll find it will be very successful. And the company is open for review. Check us out. All right.
Sounds good. Hey there, Elon. My name is Josh. I drove down from Luzerne County today, which, by the way, has flipped red by registration. Yes. Nice work, everybody there. Excellent. Yeah. Another fun fact about the northeast part of Pennsylvania, July 3rd, 1778, the largest massacre that ever happened on American soil happened when the colonists, the French, and the natives all fought over that land. And I think it all circles back.
It's now, you know, fracking central. There's a lot of resources there, land, and just beautiful local communities. Yeah. And something that is happening at a rate that is inconceivable, really inconceivable, the centralization of power to global elites and far off, abstracted places that we can't touch. Yeah. What are the ways that we bring that back to local people that can actually have an impact on the ground? Speaking with some people here. Yeah. I totally agree. Do we move the departments around the United States so they're not all in D.C.?
How do we get people on the ground empowered to actually make everyday changes and get people's support? Well, I super agree with you. So I'm against globalist power. Like, I don't think -- I think we should -- like, the U.N. should not have a lot of power. And these, like -- these, like, you know -- He's from the U.N.! It's like, who voted for them? I didn't vote for them. You know, and it's like -- we want power to the people. The power should -- maximum power to the individual. And so, like, you know, if -- like, we should not have any sort of international
treaties that restrict the freedom of Americans. And we should minimize the amount of federal interference at the state level. So it should be, like -- so unless it's at the state level, which is something you can influence, then it really -- agencies at the federal and the national level should have minimal to zero power over you. Yeah. [Applause] Is there a way that we could decentralize data so that consumers own the data? What is the next step towards that? Because I feel like that is what actually gives us our sovereignty back. Well, I guess -- I'm not sure how to decentralize the data. If the data is at least in multiple places, at least you should be able to, like,
locally store the data. I mean, people -- I think individuals should own their own data. You know, I think that's really important. Like, if you want to separate yourself from a social media company, you should be able to take everything with you. So I'm -- basically, I'm in favor of any action that maximizes your freedom and liberty. So, yeah. [Applause] Hey, Elon. Tesla shareholder, owner since 2015. I own an S-Plaid.
Thank you for making that thing because it's awesome. It is fun. It's my daily driver. It's so much fun. But my heart is with SpaceX. And so my question is, how will you, with Trump, be able to deregulate so that we can get more launches and get to Mars? Well, absolutely. That is a major factor for supporting President Trump is that, you know, if the sort of, you know, Kamala puppet machine happens,
there's going to be just more and more regulations. And this over -- you know, slow triangulation by overregulation will continue. But Trump is very enthusiastic about deregulation, which is not to say we don't want any regulation. We just want sensible regulation. And I think if President Trump is elected, we can actually take those actions and we can cut the strings. Like, I feel like America is like Gulliver, you know, tied down by a million little strings. And we need to cut those strings and free the giant.
[Applause] Hey, man. Thank you so much for doing everything you're doing. Welcome. This is going to be a little long, but I think you're going to get a kick out of it. It's a sad story that turns into something funny you'll probably like. So I was mostly a lifelong liberal, sort of like yourself, working digital production marketing stuff. Yeah, I mean, I believe in freedom. Like, I mean, I believe in, like, empathy, like you should care about your fellow human beings, you know, and, you know, and that --
and I believe in, like, free speech, which used to be a thing on the left, and now bizarrely they want censorship. I'm like, what? And thank you for buying Twitter and saving free speech and Babylon B, too. Yeah. That was great, man. Anyway, so I sort of have a case to plead to. Sorry, a little long. Anyway, I can't get into the details because there are legal issues and stuff. But years ago I had my life destroyed by crazy woke people because I was injured. I lived in Los Angeles for about 13 years.
Yep. And when I wanted to seek out, you know, like a court case and stuff, I had someone in the legal system look me straight in the face and tell me, you know, you're not the right kind of white guy. This isn't going to play out well for you. And I immediately was like, what the -- Yeah, what -- that doesn't make any sense. I don't want to swear. Sure. Yeah. And I was like, is it because I'm from Pennsylvania or I'm also Ashkenazi and Jewish or maybe both?
I don't know. Yeah. But I was immediately like, what has happened? And so it put me in a bad spiral and it, like, lost me. I just went crazy. I'm always been an egalitarian person. Yeah. Right. I mean, racism in any form is bad, doesn't matter who it's directed towards. Yeah. [Applause] And I started, you know, becoming more center right instead of liberal, which is -- it's an identity crisis because -- Yeah.
Yeah, it's a big change. Sure. And working in an industry, it's sort of -- like, you understand in our industries, it's -- you feel like an outcast. You don't really know who to talk to, and so it's awkward. So anyway, as a catharsis of sorts, I made this app called Pooper. Okay. And so it lets you put animated pooping animals on your text messages. Okay. And it's been charting for years, so, like, since I made it. It sounds funny. Yeah.
So I think you'd like it just because, you know, sticking pooping animals on, like, Mark Cuban's -- if you're talking to him, you can, like, stick it on his face or his text messages and stuff. Yeah. Right. And so he gets, like, a gorilla pooping on his text message. Yeah. I mean, I saw an interview with Mark Cuban and -- what's her name again? Rachel Maddow. But I couldn't tell which was which. [ Laughter ] So my question is, would you, like -- because this destroyed me, I was really badly injured.
I'm not saying you have to do it. I don't mean to put you on the spot. Would you consider implementing that kind of thing on the Twitter where you could, you know, use -- have a dinosaur monkey throwing poop and put it on top of Mark Cuban's, you know, like, new stupid look that he has? Or a business insider. About probably 5 million people have now heard about the pooper. [ Laughter ] Maybe 10 million. There's a lot of people that are going to watch this. So I think that's some solid publicity right there.
Thank you. >> Thanks for coming. You're going to help us win Pennsylvania and the entire -- [ Applause ] >> Well, I mean, I should say, like, it's incredibly important that everyone here and everyone listening, watching, that you go and get -- make sure your friends, family, yourself are registered to vote. Because the voting registration deadline in Pennsylvania ends at midnight on Monday. So there's only a few days left. And so you just got to be a pest and, like, hound everyone you know to make sure they're registered to vote and the registration is good.
Because it's sort of, you know, a shot clock ends at midnight on Monday. So... >> Go! [ Applause ] >> Now you're going to be the head of the doge. Have you thought about whether AI and blockchain can be used to track every dollar that the government spends, makes people accountable to the very last person, and we know exactly who agreed to a $400 toilet seat? >> Yeah. >> Can we do that? Is that in the set of possibilities? >> Actually, that's a good idea. Because actually trying to make sense of these incredibly complex laws and regulations where, you know, a law gets passed that's, like, longer than Lord of the Rings and no one's actually read the thing.
Like, literally not -- there's not actually one human who's read the whole law. And then that law gets amplified by, you know, 100 times by the regulations that follow. I think the only thing that could comprehend that is an AI, basically. So I think that would actually be a good idea, is, like, saying, okay, AI, just tell us what's actually going on, where is the money getting spent, what does this law actually mean, and simplify it, really. So, yeah. I mean, the amount of government waste that happens is truly staggering. I mean, if you've been exposed to government contracting, it's pretty nutty.
It's, like, beyond -- it's so crazy, it's hard to believe. So, yeah. So I think there's basically a lot of room for improvement there. And the net result will be a significant improvement in, like I said, personal freedom and the standard of living in America. [ Applause ] >> Hi, Mr. Musk. It is such an honor to be here with you. I am actually a former mainstream media journalist. I now teach martial arts in the city of Philadelphia to kids and also in Camden. And I find that the character skills that they need, they get through martial arts,
not so much through the education they're getting. And with my journalism background -- >> That's great. I did martial arts, too. It's great. It is -- it is a very healthy thing for kids to do, I think, yeah. And adults, too. >> Yeah, I will spar you any time. >> My question is I have such, like, a strong desire for truth that I feel like looking at X but also coming to events like this is the only way that I can truly feel that I confidently know what you're saying and how you're saying it, which I appreciate.
What do we do for kids so that when they get older, they can see through it? Because what they're learning now, I think, falls short of not just the character but also their ability to discern their own opinion. >> Well, yeah. That's a good point. I think teaching kids critical thinking is very important. They should be taught critical thinking. It's like a mental firewall. If you teach kids critical thinking at a young age and just, you know, teach them the types of fallacies that they're likely to encounter, the sort of forms of trickery,
like, you know, straw man fallacy or, you know, sort of -- there's, like, the various ways that information -- like, media or people will trick you. And just kind of immunizing kids effectively against that, I think, early on would be a very good thing to do. Basically, just teach kids, like, don't -- be a little -- be skeptical about what you're told. It may be true. It may not be true. Or it may be that often there's a certain percentage chance that it is true. And you want to consider the evidence, you know, weigh the evidence to decide what
is the probability that a certain thing is true or not true. And then when -- obviously when you hear more evidence, then you change the probabilities. I mean, generally, like, I believe in the sort of physics approach to thinking, which is that you're always, like, weighing the probabilities that something is true or not true or that there may be a third explanation. And be very open to new facts changing your mind. [ Applause ] >> For free that helps to promote, like, true journalism through anything, I'd be happy to -- >> Well, thank you.
Well, I think -- I actually think that what we want to move to is really systems like X and other social media platforms, too, hopefully, where you really have the sum of the voice of the people. You know, in times past, we didn't have the technology for this. So the only way to learn news was for it to be filtered through a small number of news organizations and then to be printed in newspapers or broadcast. There wasn't really any way that people could speak to each other or communicate with each other. But now there is. So if -- because people can be online. And I'm a big believer in sort of citizen journalism. And actually being way better.
Way better than -- because, you see, like -- At first citizen journalism may sound like, well, isn't that -- doesn't that mean just a whole bunch of amateurs are doing journalism? No, actually it's way better. Because if you have actual experts in the field saying things, that's way better than a journalist. If you have people who are actually at the event live -- I mean, look at, say, the attempted assassination of President Trump. People are actually at the event live, video. People are reporting it.
That's the kind of thing that is actually far better information than filtering it through a small number of publications, which ends up being controlled by maybe five editors-in-chief. There's like five people that control, you know, the news. And even though there are multiple newspapers, it's, you know, New York Times, Wall Street Journal, Washington Post, you know, a few others. And they decide what is newsworthy. But that should not be how it works. It should be that the voice of the people -- the cumulative voice of the people should decide what is newsworthy. [Applause] Thank you. First off, I want to thank Nicole here.
She's the one that's holding the mic. Really awesome. I know you said you were a little spectrum autistic. I mean, little, sure. Yes. So the only reason I say that is out of every successful person I've ever seen, you are the one person that I can relate to the most. So I'm sorry if I'm over-replaced a little bit. I remember you had stated that you hate the fact that every single time you hire someone for their talent instead of their passion. So I want to be able to say the Galileo test I passed, Xavier passed, Don Lemon
passed, Dark test, SpaceX test, A12, I passed that one. The '95 test, that's the year '95, what you did to be able to do Zip2, I've done that. Slave test, Steve Jobs test, reality goodness test, the reality of actually doing something good instead of just talking bullshit out their ass. The Reid Hoffman test, which he scoffed at you because you were going to be the first man to be able to put life on Mars, but it was going to be a turtle. So now he kind of is walking back on that. But anyways, you guys were good friends. So I want to, I would classify myself, the easiest way is PNS quantum engineer and
my friend Brandon and my wife, Pheo, and Brandon's over there. I want to give you my business card. If you have five seconds. Five seconds. We have to move on to questions. So to answer the question, just to be clear, the goal of the questions is to ask questions that you think the public would be interested in hearing the answer to. To be clear, that is the, that's what we're after. So, you know, it's you want to ask like, well, you're interested in a particular question, but probably there's a lot of people in America and in Pennsylvania that
are also interested in that question. And that those are the kind of questions we're aiming for here. But thank you. I was wondering if you can bring, instead of going to Pittsburgh, to be able to bring to Bethlehem, to Lehigh Valley, to be able to bring that up again. Steel? Bethlehem steel. Sure. The US. Sure. And I know you're looking between, at Pittsburgh. I was wondering if you can look at Lehigh Valley to be able to grow what was, what
made America great. Okay. Well, I mean, I think we do need a lot more local production of steel. There's not enough steel made in America. That is for sure. So, yeah. So let's move. With the emergence of AI and robotics, you've talked a lot about a possible age of abundance. What are some of the steps that you believe should be necessary to lay the foundation that it's more of a utopia for humanity than a dystopia? And why you answer that, would you mind signing an unauthorized biography written by
my six-year-old son and possibly a copy of my Hitchhiker's Guide to Galaxy? Sure. Sure. If it's a first six-year-old, sure. So the biggest thing for development of AI is that it be maximally truth-seeking, which sounds like an obvious thing. But what I see being done with a lot of the major AI companies is not truth-seeking. They're aiming to be politically correct, which means lying, essentially. So I think this is absolutely fundamental. And I mean, like an example being, for example, when Google came out with Google Gemini and people asked which is worse, global thermonuclear war or misgendering Caitlyn Jenner.
And it said misgendering Caitlyn Jenner, which even Caitlyn Jenner said that is not correct. So that is an insane thing for an AI to say, because if you have some sort of omnipotent AI, it could conclude logically that the best way to avoid misgendering is for there to be no humans, because no humans equals probability of misgendering equals zero. So you could get some very dystopian outcomes if you do not have a maximally truth-seeking AI. I think that's very important. That's the reason for xAI. So you can't have an AI built on a throne of lies. Hi, Mr. Musk. My name is Dave Cochran.
I am so ecstatic to be here. I do have the uttermost respect for you, sir. Thank you. I'm going to try to keep I wanted to bring in my sketchbooks. I'm an inventor. They would have been stacked this high, but I'm not here to pitch my ideas. I really want to know, are you going to play a part in the office once we get Trump in there and do things and maybe incorporate the space program in other areas of the country? I tried to move to Florida. My mother's 90. I want to be part of it.
I want to do it right here. I want to bring manufacturing here and the space program. But I'd like to see you involved. That's for sure. Yes, I intend to do a lot of work to improve government efficiency. So I believe this is a very doable, very achievable. So like I said, it's really like we need sensible regulations, but we can't have insane regulations. I mean, when I looked it up, I think there was something like 428 agencies, federal agencies that exist.
That's almost two agencies created per year since the founding of the country. So yeah, exactly. Not to mention the NGOs that -- what's weird about a lot of these NGOs is they're actually funded by the government. So it's like it's a government-funded, non-governmental organization, which is like -- it just ends up being a self-licking ice cream cone. It's like bizarre. How do you shut it off? You have to shut it off at the government level. So yeah, I think there's -- I do intend to -- assuming the President is probably willing, and I think he is,
I intend to play a significant role in making government efficient. I tend to be quite literal, you know. [Applause] And I think it would free up -- I think it would allow for so many things to be done that are incredibly difficult to get done. You know, like the boring company was trying to dig a tunnel, just a road tunnel, under the Colorado River in Texas, and has been waiting two years for a permit for a simple tunnel under a river. Because it's a federal river, it takes two years, and still no end in sight. Yeah, it's ridiculous. Can't get anything done. It's illegal.
On the subject of transparency, January 6th, there were two -- well, there was a single act of -- attempted act of violence where the two pipe bombs at the Democrat and Republican headquarters. The government released a picture of the pipe bomber sitting on a bench, talking on a cell phone. It was time stamped. We know there's video cameras probably every five feet in D.C. Why haven't they announced who the pipe bomber is? Well, maybe he's a federal employee. [Laughter] Maybe. Maybe.
We were clear on Twitter -- some detectives on Twitter, I think, were pretty clear that it was obvious who it was. Can't they just tell the truth? Yeah, I mean, well, I think if President Trump is elected, we're going to get to the bottom of a lot of these things. [Applause] I think it's going to be, like, massive data dump and have at it. Take a look at all the information, you know? So, yeah, so, I mean, maybe there's an innocent -- maybe there's an innocent explanation. Maybe there isn't.
Let's find out. [Applause] Hi, Elon. I know you're a bit busy, but were you to start another company, what would it be? Would it have anything to do with helping more schools be like Astronova? And what is the future of Astronova? Well, I have to say I'm not chomping at the bit to start another company. [Laughter] I have 17 jobs, and then another one, I suppose, with the Department of Government Efficiency. Although I think improving government efficiency will be really helpful in advancing space and a bunch of other things and just freeing, you know, people around the country to, you know, do what they want to do. I think, as far as education is going, I think, actually, AI is going to potentially be a very good educator, you know,
because AI basically will know all the facts and is infinitely patient and can move as fast as you'd like. And I think there's a lot of opportunity for AI teachers to be extremely good. So, thanks. [Applause] Elon, thanks for all you do, and congratulations on getting Booster 12 back to the megazilla. Thank you. [Applause] You know, the SpaceX team is just an incredibly talented team. It's an honor to work with them. Very impressive.
And relating to ECKT, would it be possible to train XAI on federal, state, and local regulations and financial data so that the citizen journalists can investigate and analyze all the finances and all the laws and regulations so that they can help identify the discrepancies that exist? Yeah, absolutely. I totally agree with that. [Applause] I mean, there is this fundamental challenge that happens, which is that laws and rules and regulations are immortal. And so, every year, there's more rules, regulations, and laws, and they don't die because they're immortal. But we're humans. We're immortal, and we do die. So, you get this accumulation over time.
Historically, what has caused a reset of laws and regulations has been war. Now, we'd like to ideally avoid war, but we still need this massive reset of regulations and reduction of regulations, ideally without the forcing function of war. But it is an interesting thing that the longer that there is peace and prosperity, the more rules and regulations will accumulate until eventually everything is legal. So, that's why I think it is essential that we have a very conscious effort to reduce the laws and regulations, or eventually no one will be allowed to do anything. [Applause] Hey, Elon. I'm Lucas, and I have a question for you. What's the best advice for your children?
[Laughter] Best advice for the kids. Well, generally, my advice is just to try to be as useful as possible to society. You know, be a good person and just try to give more than you take. You know, that's a big deal. [Applause] Hi, Elon. I'm curious, with the explosion of AI and ML, what your thoughts are on reforming the Nuclear Regulatory Commission so that we can provide all the electricity needs not only for hyperscalers, AI and ML, but also to make electricity more affordable for citizens. Yeah. In fact, I think that the dangers of nuclear power are greatly overstated. You know, so I think that we should, especially with the latest technologies,
I mean, you can actually make a nuclear reactor where it is literally impossible to melt it down if you tried to melt it down. Like, if your goal was to melt down this nuclear reactor, the new designs, you will not succeed. You know, you can go in there with a flamethrower and whatever. It doesn't matter. And bomb the place. It doesn't matter. It's still not going to melt down. So if you're in a situation like that with advanced nuclear reactors, then there shouldn't be any regulatory issues with that. Because what really matters is the safety of the public. So I think that there should be significant reform on the nuclear front.
Mr. Musk, my name is Dave. Excuse the patch. I had Mohs surgery a couple of days ago. It's super embarrassing. It took a lot to get up here with that. I integrate AI into businesses and we have to use open AI right now because they're the only API. And so we have to train it like crazy to get it not to do woke things. Hoping that Grok has an API soon. We'll be releasing the API very soon. Oh, awesome. Okay, great. My cyber truck drove me here this evening, my son and I. So thank you for that product. And my question is Space Force. I'm assuming there's been some discussions with President Trump about Space Force.
And I'm just curious if he does win. Obviously, Doge. Yes. Awesome. But secondly, what do you think Space Force might look like in 10 years? I think Space Force should really aim higher. I think when the public hears Space Force, you sort of think Star Trek, Starfleet Academy. You don't think let's make a slightly better spy satellite. But the way that Space Force is interpreted by the military currently is let's make a slightly better spy satellite. That's like 5% better. I'm like, no, that's not what people want. People want Starfleet Academy. We want the Star Trek Enterprise.
And that's what people want. A real Space Force where it's like we're actually in space. So that's why I mean like we want to aim to have like a permanently crewed base on the moon. We want to have the city on Mars. We want to be exploring the moons of Jupiter, the asteroid belt, the entire solar system. And if you decide that you want to go to Mars, you should be able to go to Mars. That would be super exciting. A real space-faring civilization would be fantastic. [Applause] Hi, Elon. You've spoken about the challenge of falling global birth rates and American birth rates.
Is that something you've spoken to Donald Trump about? And it seems like the richer we get, the worse it gets. And you can't really pay people to have more. Nothing seems to work. What ideas do you have for that? And is that something that you have spoken to him about? Thank you. I have mentioned it to him. And it is a quandary. Like as you know, if you look at the sort of the rise and fall of civilizations, you realize that actually what ended up--what ended most civilizations was a low birth rate. That is just an extended period of prosperity seems to cause birth rates to plummet.
And it is somewhat counterintuitive. When a society is under stress, birth rates increase. So if you look at, say, ancient Rome, the birth rates were super high when they were fighting the Carthaginians. And Rome's very life was at stake. Birth rates were all-time high. After they defeated Carthage and ruled the Mediterranean, the birth rates plummeted. And to such a degree that Julius Caesar even tried to pass laws like in 50 B.C. or something like that to give an incentive for any Roman citizen that would have a second or third child. So they were having birth rate issues in 50 B.C., which is pretty wild. And that was also true of really basically every civilization throughout history. It says how do you avoid this birth rate collapse, the trap of--it's a sort of
prosperity trap. I don't have a great answer for that, except I think if we can at least bring it to conscious awareness that we need to continue as a civilization, like no humans, no humanity. And at least it's a topic of conversation. It's like, hey, it's something we should do something about. And we definitely want to get rid of this ridiculous notion that there are too many humans on Earth. This is false. You know, there's a lot of people who think that the environment can't sustain this number of humans. It's totally untrue.
We could double the population of birth and still not have a significant environmental impact. So, you know, it's--like, you could fit all of the humans on one floor in the city of New York. So that's--like, 8 billion humans sounds like a lot, but actually, you know, if you're--say, take-- if you're in an airplane and you're going from here to L.A. or wherever, and you look down, how often do you see a human? You know, if your goal was to drop a ball on a human while flying from here to L.A., you'd have a hard time. So the actual density of humans is very low, and Earth's capable of easily having far more humans and should, in my opinion. [Applause] Hi, Elon. It's an honor to speak with you, and I just want to personally thank you for buying Twitter and saving free speech.
You're welcome. [Applause] So a couple months ago, I was tired of being a keyboard warrior. I signed up to be a Trump Force 47 captain. [Applause] And I knocked over 200 doors, just trying to get people to get out and vote for our president. Great. Thank you. That's super important. I mean, you know, as was asked to me at the beginning of this talk, you know, why am I so involved in politics this time?
It's because I think this time it's a fork in the road, and it's--I think--frankly, I think we're doomed. If Trump doesn't win, I think we're doomed. We're in the doom loop at that point, so he's got to win. And I think for those who are in areas that are, you know, sort of normally these, like, deep blue areas, if you think you won't get assaulted, put a Trump Vance sign on your lawn. I mean, a lot of it is, like, people are, like--they need social proof. They need evidence that other than--that they're not alone. And so probably a lot of people in these, like, normally blue areas would actually
vote for Trump if they thought someone else was voting for Trump, too. And so if you just put the sign on the lawn and be sort of loud and proud, then I think people will be like, you know what, I think I'll vote for Trump, too. [Applause] So I have a rhetorical question. Can you buy Disney and fire David Muir? [Laughter] Now, that's a real interesting idea. [Laughter] So DEI has become a cancer in our corporations. It really has. And I was wondering if there's anything realistically that the federal government can do or the Equal Employment Opportunity Commission to put a stop to this. Yeah, I think the government should be actively saying that it is illegal to
discriminate on the basis of race, gender, or anything else other than merit. It is illegal. That's--it's not right. [Applause] It's not morally right. It's not legally right. And it doesn't matter who you're discriminating against. The point is not to have discrimination but a different type of discrimination. The point is to not have discrimination. That's the whole idea. [Applause] Elon, first of all, thank you for all you're doing and thank you for being you. [Applause]
I appreciate the kind words. Thank you. In the book, All the Glitters, the mystery behind the glitter conspiracies is revealed and the details of Mission X is exposed, where SpaceX is utilized to deposit a layer of glitter above the atmosphere which deflects the red and infrared light away and cools the planet. My understanding is that this is sort of being kept secret because you don't want environmentalists or other people to come in and regulate and stop it from happening. Why isn't the public being made aware that it is essential that Donald Trump be elected for this to happen because Trump will not have to ask permission to save the planet, he'll just do it. I'm just wondering if you feel the same sentiment. There's also been some rumors on the internet that you're going to not only do this but then you're going to use it and charge the other countries of the world to support it. You're going to lower the deficit and other sources of income and there'll be no more wars between electric vehicles and oil and fossil fuels.
Why won't you tell people, "Elect Trump and this will happen," because if it's just anybody but Trump, regulations or... It only takes one person to complain and it won't happen. I think it's for sure true that when we've got so many regulatory agencies and there are so many rules and regulations, basically Washington, D.C. is like a sea of brake pedals. Everyone's got a brake pedal but nobody's got an accelerator. We're going to add some accelerators. All they want to do in D.C. is stop anything. I just call it a sea of brake pedals, brake pedals in all directions. How can you make progress if you've got a sea of brake pedals?
It's not possible. We're going to get rid of a bunch of the brake pedals and add accelerators. My question was how do we stop the steal? Is there a way to have a database on X where we can track all the votes? We all send our votes to you to track it and then we can tell who wins? There's so much, even down in Georgia right now, they're already flipping votes on the machines. How do we stop the steal? I recommend posting any evidence that you have for voting fraud or irregularities or causes of concern, just post it on the X platform and then people can support it or say either support it or debunk it, one of the two.
I do think there's generally an issue that we have, a fundamental issue, which is unless we have voter ID-- [applause] My opinion is we should have no-- I say this as a technologist who likes technology and I like computers, but we should not have computers do voting tabulation at all. [applause] It's far too easy to hack a computer. I know how to hack a computer. Government software is the easiest thing to hack. It's not the best software. In my opinion, we should have paper ballots only. It should be in-person voting with ID and a story.
[applause] Hi, Elon. Thank you for everything you do. Feel free to answer this question in three words. Some people claim that you're hurting Tesla's brand and sales by supporting Trump. What do you say to those people? [laughter] Well, I mean, you know, Tesla's sales are actually doing great. [applause] We're hitting all-time highs. I think, you know, really people care about the quality of a product as opposed to whether they agree or disagree with the CEO's views. I mean, the CEO of any given company is going to have political views. But at the end of the day, what matters is that Tesla makes a great product
and people like buying great products. So that's it. [applause] Hello. Hi. Thanks for coming and being here. I think I understand your vision for challenging the existing cell phone syndicate. But I want to know when the X phone's coming out. [laughter] Man, I sure hope we don't have to make a phone. That's a real--that's a lot of work. I mean, if, you know, if there's like--I mean, yeah, well, the idea of making a phone makes me want to die.
[laughter] So--but if we have to make a phone, we will, but we all aspire not to make a phone. You know, I do think that, you know, the various companies, you know, Apple and Google, Android and whatnot, you know, they need to make sure they don't have a heavy hand in, like, the App Store and whatnot, or they will create a forcing function for there to be a competitor. So--but man, I sure--the idea of--I dread the idea of making a phone. But if that turns out to be necessary, we'll do it. But hopefully it is not necessary. Yeah, so--all right.
Hey, Elon. First things first is that JCal is on my cap table. All right, great. And my question is, I grew up in Spain, right near where your brother got married. Oh, cool. And--in Empudias. And comparing cities back home to cities here, it's incomparable. How does one fix--you know, I go to our great city of Philadelphia. How does one fix the problem of people living on the streets? It's not talked about enough. It isn't. No, I agree.
I go to Kensington a lot, and it's just--it is such a horrible sight, seeing these poor people. At what point do you have the freedom to slowly carry yourself like that on the streets, and how do you fix that? Well, I think there's not an easy answer to that. But I think you cannot have open-air drug bazaars because obviously that's going to be a magnet. And, you know, while most people can resist the lure of drugs, some people cannot. And, you know, you just cannot have--that there be easy access to drugs and have it just be open--they're on the street. Then there are also situations where somebody is just fundamentally mentally ill, like not a little bit, you know, like I mean mentally ill in a dangerous way,
dangerous to others. And I think if somebody is incurably mentally ill and a danger to others, we need to have some kind of asylum for them. There's no--it has to be done. The word "homeless" is a misnomer. Because "homeless" sounds like someone who got a little behind on their mortgage payments, and if they just got a job offer, they'd be back on their feet. That does not describe the people in Kensington, okay, at all. So if the issue is--like, basically if there are violent drug zombies, they must be taken off the streets, and they want to go willingly.
So there's no choice. Now, I'm a big believer in empathy. I think we should have empathy for our fellow human beings. But what I see on the left is a lot of shallow empathy, sort of empathy that's skin deep, essentially, very thin empathy. They have empathy for what they term "homeless people" when they're actually violent drug zombies, but they lack empathy for the victims of the violent drug zombies. And so we should have deep empathy for everyone, not shallow empathy. Have empathy for the victims of the criminals, not just the criminals. [applause] Hi, Leon. My name is Hans Moyer.
I brought some plans here to solve all our problems. I'm going to give them to this young lady here. I have some good news. The Washington Times, the most conservative voice in our capital, endorsed President Trump for another term, so that's good news. Great. My question today to you is when your children come to you and they ask you why is so much war in our world, what do you answer them as far as where does peace begin? Well, the reality is actually, if you say war per capita, it's actually quite low. It's not that there's no war, it's just that we now hear about war anywhere at all.
But if you compare where we are today versus, say, last century with World War II and World War I, where millions of people were dying per year, we actually have on a global basis, it's actually very peaceful. That does not say there aren't some terrible things happening somewhere. There are 8 billion people on Earth. In fact, what the legacy mainstream media tends to do is try to answer the question, what is the worst thing that happened on Earth today? That's generally what the newspaper tries to answer. What's the worst thing that happened on Earth? It's a big world. There's some pretty bad things.
So actually, the reality is that there is only a small amount of war occurring in the world compared to the past. And historically, humans have had a lot of war, of course. But I think actually for countries, say, like the United States, the issue is that we've had peace for such a long time that we are a victim of prosperity. When you have peace for such a long time, you have this accumulation of rules and regulations that binds society. That's why I call it the slow strangulation by overregulation is what happens in peacetime, and a dramatic decline in the birth rate. And the decline in the birth rate,
it's not something we've ever evolved to react to. If you said that there was like a Thanos situation where somebody would snap their fingers and half of people would be dead, you'd be like, "Well, that's terrible." That's what's happening with the birth rate. Yet there is no reaction. Why is there no reaction? At the end of the day, you still have half the people. I mean, look at, say, South Korea. Birth rate is one-third replacement. One-third. That means, if you fast-forward to the future, two-thirds of South Korea is gone. Poof, gone.
More than Thanos. Why is there no reaction? Why are we not reacting to the absence of children? We should have, in my opinion, just as strong a reaction to the absence of children as to the death of humans. Because in both cases, the people are gone. [applause] Hey, Elon. How are you doing? Great job saving Twitter from the woke mind virus. And I don't know if you're a gamer, but-- I am. What gave it away? [laughter] Because I do post frequently on the subject. Yeah. Very nice to meet you.
I do actually love it. People ask me, "What are your hobbies?" Well, I talk to my friends and family, and I play video games. Yeah, I left my Diablo 4 to come here. Yeah, exactly. But the gaming industry is starting to see some results, too, of being a victim of the woke mind virus. Yeah, totally. I agree. And so I was wondering, with recent flops like-- Make video games great again. Yeah, yeah, exactly. With recent flops like Concord and Dustborn,
games are prioritizing pronouns and things like that. That's annoying. Gameplay, yeah. So I was wondering, have you ever thought about making your own gaming studio and making an impact in the industry? You know, if there's one thing I could say that would be a fun thing to do, it would be to start a gaming studio. Because I do actually intrinsically love video games. And I think, actually, if you apply sort of AI to video games, you could really make it to some incredible-- make incredible video games.
So, yeah, I think just generally for content, the problem with the sort of DEI and the woke mind virus is that it kills the art. It's just-- Like, as soon as-- When you can see something that is forcibly imposed on the story and it's discordant, it destroys the art. And now it's hard to enjoy the story. It kicks you out of the story. Because you can just feel that you're being lectured. And movies and TV and all that kind of stuff. It's like, let me just enjoy my video games. Exactly.
I know, come on. Not video games, too. [laughter] All right. Hi, Elon. As a child of science fiction and being raised on Asimov and the grandeur and the beauty that came through his stories, I'm teaching my daughter the same thing. She's six years old. Yeah. And we've had conversations watching all of your rocket launches. And she's asked me, "When can we go for a walk on the moon?" So I have to ask, what's a realistic timeline
for me to take my wife and my daughter to the moon and go for a walk? Well, that's a great question. Well, our goal with Starship is to enable anyone to go to the moon or Mars or elsewhere if they want to. And I think that is actually genuinely possible with a fully reusable rocket. The fundamental breakthrough that's needed to make life multi-planetary and for us to be a space-faring civilization is full and rapid reusability, which is what we have for every other form of transport. We've got--our cars are reusable, our planes are reusable, bicycles, horses, they're all reusable. But rockets historically have not been reusable.
They've been single-use. And that means you've got to have a whole new rocket every time you fly, which obviously makes it extremely expensive. But with Starship, we're close to achieving full and rapid reusability. And that then drops the cost of space travel by literally 10,000%, like no exaggeration. It's like 10,000% improvement. It's insane. Well, it's the difference between, you know, if you have to refuel your car or get a new car, that's a really big cost difference.
And the current situation historically with rockets is like if you went on a journey, if it was a car, you'd have to get a car and then tow a smaller car behind you to leave the other car there and then come back in the little car. [laughter] That's--which is insane. You need a second car just for the return journey. So that has made space insanely expensive. But once it's fully reusable, now the cost is simply whatever it takes to refill the rocket. That's it. And that's a massive change. So thanks.
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